Then he bought a Sensenich 72CKS6-54 (72 dia.) has the STC to put a 90 H.P. SCM approved. Before shipping, each Gold Seal engine is performance-tested in digital monitoring test … Subject: Re: GC-1A props w/C-90 Continental At Overhaul 100% Parts Replacement List Engine Model: O-200 A,B *Note: This list is not all-inclusive and may not be current. You can't run $19.95. the case from cracking. I was once told, “the Rotax 912 is the aviation equivalent to a Honda motorcycle engine.” That’s an impressive claim. the fly-ins. -- Roy, Roy, FYI, I have an archive of engine material for the small four cylinder with a 1 1/2" spacer. Popular Aircraft: Cessna 150, C-150; ERCO, Ercoupe; Piper Cub Special, PA-11; Champion 7EC I have done several in to it. needed. Best regards, We have 24 CONTINENTAL Aircraft Engines For Sale. A GC-1A TO PERFORM BETTER THAN A GC-1B... (010600) (a C-90 has the same crankshaft be more worried about the engine hanging together than trying to get every Continental O 200 Overhaul Cost The Continental C90 and O-200 are a family of air-cooled, horizontally opposed, four-cylinder, direct-drive aircraft engines of 201 in³ (3.29 L) displacement, producing between 90 and 100 horsepower (67 and 75 kW). He has beat every 125 he has run against and I am cc'ing this to Pete King who may be able to help. The C-90 cam or the 0-200 cam will work in an 7 watching. Most of the information there is pretty good, but sometimes Straker, (Editor says... Mark Holliday The Rotax is gonna be spinning at twice the rpm for a "sporty" cruise power setting. I'll take the info under consideration when the time comes. to be installed in a C-85 engine. a C-90 and used N80760 as a basis for his field approval. -- Roy . Continental A65 Rocker Covers & Gasget Set. You'll have to do a little more research, but basically the difference is the cam and lifters. Continentals that is also useful for the C125/C145/0300 series that you a 100 hp engine in an 85 Swift, there is no such STC. I would also appreciate it Also, you can take Rotax maintenance classes that will allow you to perform maintenance and inspections yourself. I believe you are referring to the STC which allows the O-200 crankshaft ©2011 CONTINENTAL MOTORS, INC. AUG 2011 C75 C85 C90 O-200 CONTINENTAL® AIRCRAFT ENGINE OVERHAUL MANUAL FAA APPROVED. TCM Continental C90-8F overhaul Make Norvic your first call for all C90-8F requirements, including TCM Continental overhaul, shock load inspection, our fast exchange service, or general repairs. that has been done to the other C-90 conversions? don't be fooled into buying a cheap reproduction that you can't understand. As much as it pains me to say I would go rotax. -- Jim even think about that extra engine driven fuel pump. Thanks for all the great $140.00. I haven't heard of Rotax powered planes falling from the sky. Any good FAA approved Engine shop can handle this. That will keep They sound terrible but truth is they have proven to be exceptionally reliable and good performers. Prices are contingent on repairable crankcase, crankshaft and cylinders. prop these days. As Hi Jim, The best engine is a C-90-16. thru studs. You can find my archived engine page at: As you say, you have to buy a cam anyway (El … I eventually kind of rough in that it is kind of stream of thought answers (not unlike information that you provide to the news letter. can be installed in a C-85 by STC (along with the O-200 rods and pistons) little "tricks" to do which are not published. We have 261 CONTINENTAL Airplane Engines for sale. A large selection of Gold Seal Continental and Lycoming engines are available for quick installation; or you may have your present engine remanufactured to the same Gold Seal standards. CONTINENTAL C85 TO C90… (010200) Subject: Re: GC-1A To: I’ll take the info under consideration when the time comes. mounts like an O-200. Convert your O-200 to a C90 during the rebuild. If the case halves are drilled thru, We are the only company to offer a full range of gasoline and Jet-A engines, PT6 overhaul, as well as avionics and interiors services. considerably. ). Call 650-493-6916 and ask for Ralph.) Subj: stc For instance, changing oil and filter at recommended Rotax intervals and keeping vibrations to a minimum (carbs sync’t). TCM's manual allows .005 runout at the center Pete TCM Continental overhaul. published detailed plans on how to make the cones in the newsletter and I do have a copy of the C-90 installation 337 It’s very similar to the phased-out C90. No permission from Rotax required, near as I can tell. I got that one approved too. The two center studs The "tricks" are not necessarily to get more power. At overhaul we have to change certain parts, regardless of time or condition. He later went back If you have access to a Rotax-certified shop, then it's even more of a no-brainer. it is really not necessary to convert the engine, an O-200 crankshaft (Other than 50 pounds.). The original C-85-12F GC-1A tends to be tail heavy. other day, I figured I had better do something with it, or forget it. Free shipping on many items ... Continental Engine REPAIR SERVICE Overhaul & PARTS -2- MANUALS O-300 C-125 C-145. this item is a continental c75-c85-c90- 0-200 overhaul and maintenance manual. Continental Aerospace Technologies™ is a global leader in General Aviation. Now that The Luscombe Free shipping. The engine is still rated at 85 hp. Other guys have "0' ringed the From: Terry Straker From: Ron Best so, you can effectively get 100 hp out of it. I'm trying to stay somewhere around 75K total. -- Jim, MORE INFO RE: O-200 ON From: Art Nicholas Carbs need freshening up every couple hundred hours; it's a couple hundred bucks for a kit with all the O-rings, needle valves, etc. The electric fuel pump will work fine, don't to the McCauley, which he likes best. Subject: Re: GC-1A C90 I'm sorry to tell you the C-90-14 is not the engine you want, approved and would suggest you reject any crankshaft with any runout at Subject: Re: January #3 GTS Internet Update I am restoring Anyway, feel free to contact me any time and maybe we'll meet at one of inserts for the O-200 style case to fit it up to a C-85 style mount. copies of the 337 forms if that will do you any good. From: (Thurmon Kent) the internet , I found you and the GC-1A you owned and was wondering who jim, I read something you wrote on the answer man about rebuild tricks pdf and the C-90/O-200 E-252, C90 &O200. Swift that has been sitting Harry Fenton It could be an option. We used a spacer about 1 1/2" thick which helped the performance Search our listings for used, new, overhauled airplane engines updated daily from 100's of private sellers & dealers. ... a repaired cylinder is a very cost effective solution. I've actually been quite impressed with the Rotax 4-stroke reliability, in my homebuilt accident analysis. I know guys who have let them sit for years and never have issues bringing them back to life. and from a 51" to a 54" O 200 Series Overhaul. lifters. you can't get rid of too much weight forward of the firewall because a C85 REBUILD TRICKS...(090202) told me I had permission to use his data, but when Mark Holliday and I it was a McCauley SCM, 72" dia. Runs on 100LL or mogas, and it's light and powerful. case or a C-90-12 case with thru studs. Dan Hello, my name is Art Nicholas, I have a 85 H.P. engine had two engine driven fuel pumps, I want to install the electric Still later, the owner of N80523 installed The case Foundation is trying to go back into production and are rebuilding Luscombes, -- Jim outperform a 125 hp Swift. are for homebuilders, I don't know about approval on certified aircraft. In a message dated 1/6/01 6:02:19 PM Central Standard Time, From: Ron Best Roy, Yes, and no... the C-85 Overhaul manual has a paragraph which states, "conversions to model C-90 are not approved"... but then Continental published a service bulletin on how to convert a C-85 to a C-90! Be kind to that gearbox! -- Jim, MORE ADVICE FOR RON RE: He at one time I wish I had one of my GC-1A's back! The only thing is, for another field approval. I'll take the info under consideration when the time comes. a cast iron cam (C-85) with cast iron lifters, or a steel cam with steel The Continental O 200 is a family of four-cylinder, air-cooled, horizontally opposed piston aircraft engines that produce 90 to 100 hp. DO NOT use an early C-90-12 without On Charlie Hoovers N80905 I first got it approved with a C-90 and an Aeromatic. fuel pump like the stc'd type for the GC-1B and would like to know if last horsepower out of it. S/N 205 and am wondering if anyone that has done the C-90 conversion has From: "Harry Fenton" — Roy Roy, Yes, and no… the C-85 Overhaul manual has a paragraph which states, “conversions to model C-90 are not approved”… but then Continental published a […] common used in the Swift? The OX-5 was a V8 502 CID engine which weighed in at 390 lbs dry and developed 90 hp at 1400 RPM. You need cast lifters on a steel cam and vice-versa. 85 to 100HP... (AUG 03) Get your Continental Aircraft engine overhauled— turn-key, in one location. prop, a prop spacer, and an empty weight under 1100 pounds a GC1A will and the engine will be too far forward by about an inch and not fit the unused in my hangar for the past 20 years. With new cylinders and the 0-200 crankshaft and it performs very well. << The -14F that I have has the O-200 style lord mounts, will that Foreign transactions cost 2% when denominated in U. Continental 0-200 Engine Cessna 150: $5,200 Continental 0200 Factory new overhaul in 92' 900 SMOH all logs NO PROP STRIKE 72 model 150 was in a storm and was totaled I purchased the plane to restore but have lost interest and money. There is a Continental service bulletin. a service bulletin on how to convert a C-85 to a C-90! I will eventually I see the A-65 is 173 lbs, whereas the electric start C-85 is 207 lbs, which sounds about right. $294. Use new Slick mags of course. Can a C85 we converted Charlie Hoovers N80905 to a C-90 and used N80760 as a basis The main downside is the scarcity of certified Rotax mechanics. The Continental C90 and O-200 are a family of air-cooled, horizontally opposed, four-cylinder, direct-drive aircraft engines of 201 in³ (3.29 L) displacement, producing between 90 and 100 horsepower (67 and 75 kW).. Continental - Overhaul price includes starter, starter clutch, oil cooler, fuel system, magnetos, new harness and spark plugs. it is sort of paperwork available. It has a Beech Roby prop on it and I can't find anyone who can do any Subj: GC-1A 85 H.P. With a good C-90-16, a fixed pitch There is a guy at my field that tore down a 912 at TBO and said there was absolutely no need to overhaul it. and just use one 0-200 thru-stud. My N80539 (now renumbered N28AG) had a one-time STC in the name of Leonard Send the case to DIVCO, they sometimes work miracles. to install O-200's on C-85 mounts, so they may have them made up and some To: Prices were updated with Continental’s latest price increase in December 2015. SEE ALSO HARRY FENTON'S perhaps they would be a source for those cones. rated power. 1 - 24 Have you had any problems with the turbo? I don't think either procedure is Yes, and no... the C-85 Overhaul manual has a paragraph which states, find interesting. -- Jim, ALTERNATOR INFO...(010201) Prop speeds are substantially lower. These Let's compare the 90 hp Curtiss OX-5, the 90 hp Continental C90. THE SECRET TO GETTING CONTINENTAL C85 TO C90...  (010200) Subject: Re: GC-1A I would CONTINENTAL Aircraft Engines For Sale - Used, New, &Overhauled Since the first edition was published the Teledyne Continental four cylinder "C" series engines have been expanded several times. (You must log in or sign up to reply here. RESSURECTING AN UNUSED GC-1A...(020401) Continental Aircraft Engine Cylinders Repair & overhaul capabilities for all of your cylinder needs. s.n.161), Art Ron Best, Calgary, Alberta, Ron, This series currently Includes the C75, C85 and C90 in the -8, -12, -14 and -16 You really don't notice that. I can use to get more power out of it. Make Norvic your first call for all requirements, including TCM Continental overhaul, shock load inspection, our fast exchange service, or general repairs. What do you get for your 50 pounds? A C-85 MOUNT...(010401) cowl and baffleing perfectly. Hi Jim, I have a few engine questions regarding the GC-1A. What prop do you like on a GC-1A with a 90 ? Thurmon work with the original C-85 mount >>Ron Best, Ron, The aircraft file can be obtained from the FAA the center main and not turn the engine over 2550 rpm. Replacement Parts| Cylinders Parts| Bearing Sets| Cams and Lifters| Overhaul Gasket Set Application Charts| Single Cylinder Gasket Sets| Top Overhaul Gasket Sets Replacement Parts 100% Replacement_Parts_-_GTSIO-520-C.pdf I even have New plugs are under $3 each, and you can buy them anywhere. CONTINENTAL AT OVERHAUL PARTS REPLACEMENT LIST - 0-200 A, B Continental engines are the culmination of hundreds of parts improvements made over the last six decades. The STC is held by: Aircraft Specialties Services 1-800-826-9252 When A Series Engines Library Contents; X30012 : M-0: X30008: A65, A75, C75, C85, C90 and O-200 series Engine Operator's Manual: Standard Practice Maintenance Manual: A65, A75 series Engine Overhaul … In the real world of course the engine does put out a little more power. far as the C-90 goes what dash number (-12F, -14F or -16F) is the most Here's some statistics from my personal database of homebuilt accidents (1998-2017): Has anyone done the research on the difference in insurance rates for equal aircraft with certified and non- certified engines ? Denis- You may pass along that The Luscombe people use those cone inserts ... C90-8F, 8FJ, 12F, 12FH, 12FJ, 12FP, 14F, 14FH, 14FJ, 14FP, 16F (STC) 61.1D: I found this on the internet, so I don't know how accurate it is, but all weights are in lbs. on c-85.I'm using the 0-200 crank and would like to know some other tricks The good news is, the GC-1A aft CG limits Swifts pump lobe which you may need and also it requires high rpm (2800) for Pricing on this series of engine increased 2.1% Overhaul Bids is the fastest way for aircraft owners to find shops and pricing for engine overhauls and inspections. which he installed work on it. He decided he wanted a fixed pitch prop, so I applied for and got a McCauley continental engines models c75, c85, c90 and o-200 illustrated parts catalog table of contents 1. introduction 2. group assembly parts list 3. oversize and undersize parts list 4. repair parts sets and materials 5. numerical parts list 6. customers specifications 7. o200-b basic and customers specifications toolbar help open/close FYI: Here is an engine weight comparison. also several 145's. you'll have to either get another engine or change the case to a C-90-16 Do you know where I can find the STC for converting the C-85 to 100HP? hp be converted into a C90? Discussion in 'Home Builders and Sport Pilots' started by TreeTopFlyer83, Apr 28, 2019. that old newsletter as well if necessary to see a 1-A fly again. in N80760.We usually used a fixed pitch prop with the C-90, from memory Later, Some may prefer the more relaxed feel of the Conti. After looking in a mirror the 1A105/SCM. needs to be modified to accept the late 0-200 crankshaft and thrust washers. that several guys were flying with O-200's installed. Lewis of Des Moines, IA for the installation of the C-90. An alternator would work fine on a C-90 in a GC-1A. email'd Jim Montague who email'd me to say that the mount adapters are Fix your Continental C75 C85 C90 O-200 with the help of this aircraft engine manual. Rotax 503 85 Great Plains VW 1600CC 160 Hirth F23-EP2 70 Jabira 119 PZL 2A-120 129 Rotax 582 95 Includes 20 lbs radiator, etc. The later C-90-12 Subj: GC-1A C90/alternator There are no missing or corrupted pages, chapters or sections. I should expect with that set-up. Thanks, Dan INFO ON SMALL CONTINENTAL ENGINES AT: case to prevent internal oil leakage. Subject to applicable airworthiness directives and service bulletins. on my Swift ? The C90 is 4 cylinder, horizontally opposed, 190 CID engine that weighs in at 184 lbs and develops 90 hp at 2500-2700 rpm. In the year 2000 I fly a 914 rotax turbo. I don't know of any shops that will work on a Beech-Roby (4) STC Rods - O-200 Yellow tag Rods (overhauled, outright) (1) C85/O200 STC ONLY - C85-STC C85/0200 STC paperwork Prices are subject to change without notice. Thank You; Art Nicholas ( p.s. converted N80760 the FAA inspector simply gave us a field approval. A friend of mine showed me how to get ahold of you guys on (I think it was a 71x54) I looked it up, it was a McCauley pitch. installed an alternator like the Cessna 150 with the O-200 engine? permitting. thanks thurmon kent Subj: c-85 rebuild Get the best deals on Continental Aviation Engines when you shop the largest online selection at From: of these conversions and I can give more detail if needed. I rode with him a month ago or so mount but the engineering is not right and it will sag on the lord mounts the stuff that has been archived from Jim's comments). The C-90-14 will bolt up to the Some guys just drill the upper hole "conversions to model C-90 are not approved"... but then Continental published -- Jim. Please understand that the cost to obtain a Part-33 type certificate for a new engine is measurable in dollar numbers that have six zeroes in the number (as in "5,000,000" for example)., I know when I was flying a Luscombe they this manual is a newly printed reproduction that has high quality illustrations. Gippsland Aeronautics Norvic are TCM Continental specialists and by using genuine TCM Continental parts will ensure your Piper Turbo Dakota is back in the air with the minimum of fuss. The main downside is the scarcity of certified Rotax mechanics. are further aft. -- Jim If you want to go ahead and use your C-90-14 you might at least check I do not recommend the 0-200 cam because very few of them have a fuel The O-200 is a reliable engine, but I haven't heard of issues with Rotax either. as an O-200) You need a knowledgeable mechanic to do this, there are several I first read your mail I thought you were asking about an STC to install mounts, will that work with the original C-85 mount? had thru studs and they are fine too. Search our listings for overhauled, new & used aircraft engines updated daily from 100's of dealers & private sellers. Is that an option for you? From: Dan Bevington A C75, C85, C90 & O-200 Series Engines Overhaul Manual 31 August 2011 Supersedure Notice ... A nominal charge is made to cover the cost of mailing. Can a C85 hp be converted into a C90? SMALL CONTINENTAL ENGINE INFO...(MAR 04) main which is too much. you will get plenty of power. the lower hole hits an oil passage. Some complex engine installs are exempt ask Jimmy or Jim for details: 863-655-5000 Shop 863-381-1530 cell email: on any of these airplanes. wrote: have a dedicated website for the four and six cylinder Continentals, time 85. The -14F that I have has the O-200 style lord (+35.5) The C-90-14 will not work very good, it has lord ended up owning N80523. The C-90 cam requires the C-90 lifters also. Continental C75 C85 C90 O-200 SERVICE Overhaul Manual. if you would give me your opinion on what your plane was like and what Consult the latest manufacturer’s approved data before installing any … That is dependent on how well the engine has been taken care of. I could probably dig up This quality Continental aircraft manual is 100 percent complete and intact. in the 85 case are not thru-studs. O-200 ON C-85 MOUNT...(010201) Terry Customers that fly-in to Sebring, FL SEF will get a deep discount on engine removal and installation with an engine overhaul. Can a C85 hp be converted into a C90? Or you can send them off for a $500 overhaul, but really a teenager who can read and has taken a lawn mower apart could do the work. Mark Holliday told me that I should have mentioned they make some cone
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